Tiga Bayles interviews CEO of the Ian Thorpe Fountain for Youth, Jeff McMullen. They talk about Indigenous knowledge, the Ian Thorpe Fountain For Youth; Indigenous Projects; a 'fresh project' Ian Thorpe Fountain for Youth is going to publish a book using the lyrics of 'From Little Things Big Things Grow' and telling the story behind it – getting it out into the mainstream and Indigenous Education, a mentoring project called AIME, Australian Indigenous Mentoring Experience which has a new approach to getting kids through high school years.