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Catch up on this very special episode of Let’s Talk Black Knowing, as Chelsea & David talk live in the studio about the week that was: from the Woppaburra Native Title claim and the threat that Indigenous sovereignty never ceases to pose to settler governments, to another #LayoffLatrell segment from Chelsea, fresh from the NSW Origin win, and reflecting on the hatred this country reserves for Blackfullas who love Blackfullas. Chelsea & David dig into Senator Fatima Payman’s decision to vote against the Labor Party in Senate this week, crossing the floor to vote with the Greens in their bid to recognise Palestinian statehood. They talk about the vitriol and sanctions that have been directed at Senator Payman in the week since her courageous decision to cross the floor, including her suspension from the Labor caucus, and they reflect on how starkly these responses sit in contrast to the continuing silence of the Labor government on the genocide that the Israeli government is undertaking in Gaza. Finally, they turn their gaze to the United States, where the first Presidential debate between Donald Trump & Joe Biden took place this week, in truly farcical fashion. From a debate about who has the biggest…golf club…to a memorable segment on immigration restriction and #Blackjobs, the Presidential debate represented the truly depressing political parameters of mainstream settler colonial governance. Expect a lot of laughs, some incisive commentary on balls and bats, and in classic Black Knowing style, an introduction to Dr. David Singh’s critique of interest convergence and the power of Sovereign Divergence.